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Loh Pei Ying admits to lying about redaction of chat messages given to COP: Day 4 of Pritam’s trial
The redacted message, sent by Yudhishthra Nathan, was a suggestion to "just not give too many details".


On the fourth day of Workers' Party's (WP) secretary-general Pritam Singh, ex-WP cadre member Loh Pei Ying admitted that she lied about the reason she redacted information in a document submitted to the Committee of Privileges (COP) in 2021.

Singh's defence lawyer, Andre Jumabhoy, read out a message from another ex-WP member, Yudhishthra Nathan, that stated:

"In the first place, I think we should just not give too many details. At most apologise for not having the facts about her age accurate."

Jumabhoy pointed out to Loh that in her submission to the COP, she redacted the message saying it was about another Member of Parliament (MP).

"That's not true, isn't it?" he asked.

Loh replied, "That is not true".

"That was a barefaced lie," Jumabhoy said.

"Sure," Loh said.

Hiding the message

When asked if she deliberately hid Nathan's message when submitting the document to the COP, Loh requested to clarify, but Jumabhoy pressed on.

Loh then admitted that she had hidden the message.

"You hid [the message] on the basis that it was about something else," Jumabhoy pointed out, to which Loh said, "Yes".

"That's a lie," said Jumabhoy, and Loh said "yes" again.

As the questioning continued, Jumabhoy stated that Loh's action was clear by redacting the message, as the message "doesn't look good" for Nathan.

Loh agreed.

"And that doesn't look great on your group," Jumabhoy added.

"That doesn't look good on him," she clarified.

Loh added that she was worried the documents would become public and that Nathan would be attacked for his comment; thus, she redacted the message.

Loh then shared that she had redacted the message after sitting down with senior parliamentary staff and MP Rahayu Mahzam — a member of the COP — for three hours to review all her text messages. They reviewed all her messages "that were relevant to the COP" and agreed on what could and could not be redacted.

When questioned by Jumabhoy if Rahayu knew that Loh was redacting that particular message, Loh replied:

"No, this redaction is mine, but my position is that she would have seen (the message)."

Jumabhoy pressed Loh, asking if she had redacted the message to preserve the integrity of Nathan, herself, or Raeesah, but Loh said no to each of these suggestions.

"I didn't want this to come to light, that would make him appear poorly, because he did eventually change his mind, and it didn't really, materially materialise, this wasn't something that (we) acted on."

Loh said that in the end, she felt that the message was "immaterial" to the timeline of the case.

Proceeding were adjourned shortly after this exchange.

Loh is expected to continue testifying on Oct. 18.




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Pritam Singh trial: Raeesah Khan's ex-assistant Loh Pei Ying admits under defence grilling that she had lied
Ms Loh Pei Ying, who is a prosecution witness in the trial against Pritam Singh for alleged lies, admitted to lying by hiding a message from a party member suggesting to continue Ms Raeesah Khan's lie.

Pritam Singh trial: Raeesah Khan's ex-assistant Loh Pei Ying admits under defence grilling that she had lied
(From left to right) Loh Pei Ying, Raeesah Khan and Pritam Singh's lawyer Andre Jumabhoy outside the State Courts on Oct 17, 2024. (Photos: CNA/Lim Li Ting)
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17 Oct 2024 06:43PM (Updated: 17 Oct 2024 10:59PM)

SINGAPORE: In a shock turn in the ongoing trial of Workers' Party (WP) leader Pritam Singh, Ms Loh Pei Ying - former WP cadre member and assistant to Ms Raeesah Khan - was exposed for lying in a trial centred around untruths.

Confident, composed and articulate in the morning when she was testifying for the prosecution about how the aftermath of Ms Khan's own lie had played out, Ms Loh broke under questioning by Singh's lawyer, Mr Andre Jumabhoy.

It was revealed that she had redacted a message to be presented in a document to the Committee of Privileges (COP) because it was from party member and friend, Mr Yudhishthra Nathan. The message suggested that they should continue lying.

However, she gave another reason for the redaction that was not the truth.

Ms Loh, who left the party in November 2022, was on the stand as a prosecution witness on Day 4 of the trial against Singh, which has so far unearthed alleged lie upon lie.

Singh is contesting two charges of lying to the Committee of Privileges (COP) about what he intended to do after he found out that his then-MP Ms Khan had lied in parliament.

Ms Khan gave a false anecdote in parliament on Aug 3, 2021, about how she had accompanied a rape victim to a police station, where the victim was allegedly asked about her dressing and alcohol consumption.

She confessed to the lie only in November 2021 and a COP was later convened to look into her conduct. In her testimony, she claimed Singh had given her advice which she took to mean she should maintain her lie for a certain period of time.

As a result of the COP, she was fined S$35,000 and resigned from WP and as an MP, and Singh was charged with rare offences of lying in parliament.

Broadly, Singh's case so far is that he never told Ms Khan to maintain her lie, but Ms Khan and Ms Loh, her close confidante, had testified contrary to this.

THE LIE BY MS LOH

Just before the trial wrapped up on Thursday evening, Mr Jumabhoy questioned Ms Loh about a document she had prepared to present to the COP.

The document contained messages from a group chat she shared with Ms Khan and Mr Nathan, who was a member of WP's media team and fellow cadre member. Aside from party leaders, only Ms Loh and Mr Nathan knew about the fact that the rape story was a lie at that point.

One of the messages in the group chat, sent by Mr Nathan on Oct 12, 2021, stated: “In the first place I think we should just not give too many details. At most apologise for not having the facts abt her age accurate.”

Ms Loh had stated that she redacted this message because it was related to another MP.

"That's a bare-faced lie, isn't it," said Mr Jumabhoy.

Ms Loh paused, dropped her head from side to side, and answered: "Sure."

"In the COP, you submitted a document and deliberately edited it, didn't you?" asked Mr Jumabhoy.

Ms Loh repeatedly tried asking to be allowed to clarify, but no permission was given.

"Answer my question," said Mr Jumabhoy. "You submitted a document and deliberately hid this comment. And you hid it on the basis that it was about something else."

"I hid it, yes," said Ms Loh. "I hid it because at this point I understood Mr Nathan felt bad about having made the suggestion."

"You hid it on the basis that it was about something else. That's a lie," said Mr Jumabhoy.

"Yes," admitted Ms Loh.

"It's clearly not about coming clean at this stage," said the lawyer. "Mr Nathan is suggesting that - we should just lie about it some more, correct?"

"That is his suggestion yes," said Ms Loh.

"And you felt confident enough in probably the most formal setting most of us will ever encounter to put forward a false version of what he's actually saying?" asked Mr Jumabhoy.

Ms Loh then said she did not hide the message to preserve the integrity of Ms Khan, Mr Nathan or herself.

"I was worried these documents would become public and I didn't want him to be attacked for it, but the entire conversation was verified by a senior parliamentary staff and Ms Rahayu Mahzam who sat beside me and verified every message before it was redacted on my phone, they agreed it should be redacted," she said.

Ms Loh said she had spent three hours going through WhatsApp messages with Ms Rahayu and another parliamentary staff member, before Ms Loh went home and prepared the document containing the messages for the COP.

Mr Jumabhoy then questioned if Ms Rahayu knew what she was redacting, and agreed to the redaction.

"No, this redaction is mine, but my position is that she would have seen (the message)," said Ms Loh.

Ms Loh agreed that the redaction was to hide information, but refused to agree that it was to preserve the integrity of Mr Nathan, Ms Khan, or herself.

"Mr Nathan felt very guilty that he had made this message and he had said this, and we had discussed this before ... I didn't want this to come to light, that would make him appear poorly, because he did eventually change his mind, and it didn't really, materially materialise, this wasn't something that (we) acted on," said Ms Loh.

Earlier, Mr Jumabhoy questioned Ms Loh on a message she had sent suggesting that Ms Khan gather more anecdotes from sexual assault survivors to present that instead. This was when they already knew a police investigation into Ms Khan's lie was likely.

Mr Jumabhoy asked Ms Loh why she was telling Ms Khan to "hide behind another anecdote that isn't hers".

Ms Loh objected, saying she was not asking Ms Khan to "hide behind anything", but instead was "brainstorming solutions to the scenario".

"And is the solution to the scenario to obstruct an investigation? Is that your solution?" asked Mr Jumabhoy.

"No," replied Ms Loh.

"Is the solution to ... pervert the course of justice?" Mr Jumabhoy continued.

"No," Ms Loh answered.

When allowed by the judge to clarify her answers, Ms Loh said: "We are friends. This (chat) is a private channel. I'm suggesting options ... if she doesn't want to tell the truth, there's a grey area to operate in that could be a little uncomfortable but could possibly work. She could avoid lying again, but still address the point she raised in parliament, which is that (some) sexual assault victims have unpleasant experiences in police investigations."

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JUMABHOY QUESTIONS LOH ABOUT FINDING OUT ABOUT KHAN'S LIE

Earlier on Thursday, Mr Jumabhoy asked Ms Loh about the first time she found out about Ms Khan's lie, which was during a Zoom video call on the night of Aug 7, 2021. Mr Nathan was part of this call.

Ms Loh described talking about the history of the party, as she and Mr Nathan had been involved in a WP anniversary book.

"(We gave) her a bit more grounding and context and sort of how this would play out and (the) perception that people would have. (Ms Khan) had been labouring under (a) perception, even before this meeting, that she would be (particularly) antagonised by the government," said Ms Loh.

Ms Loh had wanted to tell Ms Khan that opposition politicians being questioned by the government was "par for course for politics" and that they had to be "always on our guard".

"Ms Khan was under the impression that she had been extra antagonised, (under) extra scrutiny and that she just had been treated unfairly in general in her entire experience as a politician," said Ms Loh.

"I was trying to help her understand that what she was going through was almost mild in comparison to some other individuals in WP history, some of whom have been exiled from the country."

Asked if she had advised Ms Khan to correct her lie, Ms Loh said that was not her role or responsibility.

"In that call, I was a friend or confidante, taking a course of correcting something like this in parliament requires significant thinking and planning and that needed advice ... For lack of a better phrase, it's above my pay grade," Ms Loh testified.

MEMORY ON CONVERSATION WITH SINGH "FUZZY"

Mr Jumabhoy also questioned Ms Loh on her meeting with Singh at the Aljunied-Hougang Town Council on Aug 10, 2021.

Ms Loh said that she had met Singh in person and spoken to him for about 10 minutes before Mr Nathan joined them.

Testifying that her memory of the event was "fuzzy" Ms Loh said that she spoke about Ms Khan's future performance as an MP, and about how traumatised sexual assault victims could react.

"The exact exchange is fuzzy for several reasons because we avoided talking about it explicitly, it was relatively fleeting, a relatively quick exchange. I did quite a bit of the talking," said Ms Loh who recalled that Singh had, at some points, been nodding to what she said.

She recalled telling Singh that it was "important" to affirm Ms Khan's experience and give her the "benefit of the doubt".

Mr Jumabhoy then asked what Singh had been nodding about, and Ms Loh stressed again that her memory was fuzzy.

"I recall asking Mr Singh if he thought the matter would come up (in parliament) and he nodded."

After a further exchange on this point, Principal Deputy District Judge Luke Tan intervened to ask what point Singh nodded to.

Ms Loh said that she could not recall the exact question and words, but that it was related to whether Singh thought the issue would come up in parliament.

Almost immediately, however, Ms Loh clarified to the court that Singh had shaken his head, not nodded.

Noting the change in testimony, Mr Jumabhoy asked if Singh had in fact nodded or shook his head.

"My memory is fuzzy that's the best I can answer," said Ms Loh.

Mr Jumabhoy ended his cross-examination for the day after the bombshell exposure of her lie. The trial will resume on Friday morning with Ms Loh on the stand.

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